Progressive idealism? What a load of bollox

Chuckles sends a piece by one Fosetti and as Chuckles and I align on many things, I presumed I’d agree with this Fosetti.

Perhaps I didn’t read it fully but when he quotes one Moldbug:

Progressive Idealism is a nontheistic branch of Christianity, specifically its Unitarian (American) and Nonconformist (British) sects, both of course dating back to the Puritans, who were the first to construct the integrated political, educational and religious system who much-improved descendant now hold Planet Three in its icy, inexorable grip.

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The only reason we don’t think of the Progressives’ descendants, the Psuedo-Democrats, as a Christain party, is that the Psuedo-Democrats don’t want us to. In fact, their theocratic ideology, progressive idealism, is the leading modern descendant of the most powerful American Christian tradition, the “mainline” Protestants, who infested New England in the early 1600s and for some damned reason have never left.

… I can only conclude whoever wrote those particular words is talking out of his proverbial. Where on earth does he get this c*** from? Perhaps Chuckles sent the piece to tear strips off. I think that must have been it.

For the notion that Progressive Idealism springs from Christianity is bizarre. It stems from the distinctly anti-Christian push, The Fallen [to put it in Christian terms], which also set up the Royal Society and the Frankfurt School among other groups, i.e. Them.

In a hair-splitting way, one could say that NT scripture is idealism but hardly “progressive” as the term is applied today. In fact it’s really rather reactionary, hence the constant assault by “progressives” and the attempt to marginalize it.

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4 responses to “Progressive idealism? What a load of bollox

  1. I think I see what he is saying. It’s not that progressive idealism descended from Christianity per se, but that the worst tendencies of the Puritans are the same as the worst (or should I say, chief) tendencies of the “progressives.”
    The nannies have always been with us in one guise or another, in other words.

  2. Ah well that makes it all right then. Thought I might have had it wrong.

  3. Let us remember that the Pilgrims were the first communist society in America. That experiment lasted one disastrous harvest.

    New England, especially, remained a place where Tocqueville observed that although government had little hold on Americans, more was expected of a free man than any place on earth. At that time religion stressed an individual’s personal commitment to his neighbors. When Americans lost their faith they handed their commitment over to the collective. The progressives are what remains of the Puritan creed without a belief in God or individual responsibility.. They are indeed the atheist heir of the religious busybody but without the limiting influence of shame. .

  4. Getting into conceptual knots over heresies.